You both might be right – Keith Lewis – #160

My guest this week is Laws Co-ordinator at World Rugby and Founder of, Keith Lewis.

We talked about the days when we shared a pitch back in the early 2000’s when I played at Old Colfeians, how Keith got into refereeing and his early influences at Preston Grasshoppers. We then discussed how referees are assessed and coached, how positioning is vital and the differences when moving up the leagues as a referee.

Keith shared his challenges when progressing through the ranks including a shocking moment in a huge Championship game between London Welsh and Exeter.

We discussed Keith’s role at World Rugby and how laws are developed, tested and implemented. There are so many things to consider including the potential unforeseen circumstances.

Keith also shared why he started and how it’s developed into a wonderful resource and community for referees.

This is a brilliant chat with so much quality information and great stories – I hope you enjoy.


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